One more thing about Ohio State. Ex-prez Karen Holbrooke has drawn some almost defensive critisism from OSU people for her comments:
I've seen responses like "it happens everywhere" or "it's not that bad". When I was there, I saw some ugly behavior, but nothing was a more disconcerting feeling to me than the pre-game OSU-Michigan in 2002. I could feel the passion, but in a negative way, like maybe, just maybe, a Michigan fan was going to get murdered that day. Nobody got murdered, but I wasn't suprised to hear that blocks away from where I was, the normal "rioting" and turning over of cars was going on. I still don't understand why some jackasses feel the need to launch a bottle or light up a La-Z-Boy if their team wins. Or loses.“When you win a game, you riot. When you lose a game, you riot. When spring comes, you riot. African-American Heritage Festival weekend, you riot,” Holbrook said on the tape.
“They think it’s fun to flip cars, to really have absolute drunken orgies. … I don’t want to be at a place that has this kind of culture as a norm.”